Terry to the rescue!

whatever deficiencies in writing he may have, i agree with joker that this hand was not well played.

What is clear is that posting weird spots you get yourself (rightly or wrongly) into is far more interesting than posting coolers that make yourself feel better.

I'm not sure how seriously your suggestion can be taken if you made the following comments yourself in another thread:



This comes off sounding very condescending, and frankly, rude. Administrators/owners and operators of this site should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us "minions" that decide to come here.

This may sound a touch biased as I do know Joker fairly well, but I think his comments also came off a tad harsh. I actually disagree with his statement that live players in BC are atrocious. I think most games here are a bit tougher than other games I've played in, because in a nutshell, the players here are tougher to read. When you're getting 4-5 callers preflop after establishing a nitty image and raising, even though you win bigger pots with your big hands, you'll also lose bigger pots as well which increases variance a lot more.

I find the tables here tough to control, unless you're constantly ramming and jamming at pots. In LV, I was able to control almost all the tables that I played at. Even the regs there were the type of player that were "almost good" and always made the "right (wrong) laydown" to you because they always gave you credit for a hand. I wouldn't consider myself a player who wants to be the Table Captain, but I almost always had it given to me by default because they were so easy to push around.

As for this hand itself, I think you took into account your image a bit too much. You probably thought that you were going to be able to take this down either preflop or on the flop heads up, which is why you raised it up. Once the flop comes, other than flopping made hands, you really can't ask for much better. I'll agree with Mike when he said that betting $300 and all-in are the same, so it depends if you want to play for stacks. You could always take a free card here if you think an Ace might be out there and won't fold, otherwise take a shot and bet at it for 200-300.

are you serious lol

Joker's post is a bit condescending.

Pete's post in the other thread is simply saying he's wrong and his way of thinking in this spot is wrong. It's a simple fact, while Joker's is speculation.

It's exactly like me posting on here that 3+3=10

Pete saying nope sorry ur wrong
Joker saying youre stupid and bad at math

I'm not saying i disagree with jokers post or right to post that, but i am disagreeing with suhleaf

Yeah, I normally hate defending Pete but he does respond to about a million posts here, and doesn't always have time to elaborate, which is why his response *may* sound abrupt and a little rude. If he followed up his "wrong thinking" comment with why it was the wrong thinking (and that topic has been covered countless times in previous posts; basically you should view the situation in terms of EV instead of gambling, waiting for better spots, etc) then I don't think it would come off as condescending or rude at all.

Telling someone that they should "move down in levels" is IMO condescending. This is coming from an expert in speaking condescendingly.

Hey Dave,

I addressed Joker's comments by saying they came off a bit harsh. I still think Pete's comments are bit sarcastic and abrupt, which wouldn't make the poster feel any better about themselves.

yeah fair enough suleafs i could see that

I'm sure discretion is the better part of valor here, but that's never been my style.

Neither Pete nor I are saints. Occasionally we might say something abrupt, or just tell someone that they're flat out wrong. I haven't read the section of the Internet rulebook where it says we can't do that. It should be understood that in poker many good players will make bad plays, or make mistakes in their reasoning. I tell Pete he's flat wrong all the time, but I think he's quite a good player.

Joker's comments were in a whole different realm. On the basis of almost no evidence he called another player a beginner and said they shouldn't even be playing the limits they are. Comparing those two "slights" is pretty absurd. It's like the difference between cutting someone off in traffic and slashing their tires.

And then making a post about our responsibilities as site owners?! Give me a break.

I barely have time to PLAY poker anymore, let alone write a thesis on a topic I have literally covered hundreds of times before in posts on this forum.

Often I post something that is meant to provoke thoughts or responses from others.

If you feel slighted by someone disagreeing with your play, you won't make it far as a player. If you played a hand well, I will say so, if I feel you played it poorly I will say that too.

honestly i think one of the biggest reasons I was able to grow fastly on 604 as a player was that I wasnt afriad of posting hands where I screwed up, I mean i still do. I want the better players to tell me that this or that is crap

Strangely enough, the guys that post the most hands where they screwed up are the guys that went from donks to pros.

I am doomed to be the exception to the rule once again I see...

I heart honesty. Does this shirt make me look fat?

lololol

Thanks Mike, I appreciate your comments.

As for Joker, not sure what his problem is.